KHASHOGGI: A BIG MESS WITH MANY PLAYERS

"....Beneath the largely specious argument that Saudi Arabia has the US by the cajones economically lies the true factor that has caused the two countries to be glued together.

This factor is the Israeli success in convincing the US government, and more importantly, the American people, that Iran is a deadly enemy, a menace to the entire world, a reincarnation of Nazi Germany, and that Saudi Arabia, a country dedicated to medieval methods of operation, is an indispensable ally in a struggle to save the world from Iran.

The successful effort to convince us of the reality of the Iranian menace reflects the previous successful campaign to convince us all that Iraq was also Nazi Germany come again."

Patrick Lang (USA Ret.) "Sic Semper Tyrannis Blog"-10/23/2018-LINK

"Like a Mafia Boss, Erdogan Plans To Milk The Khashoggi Investigation For All It's Worth..

The Turkish president may have only revealed a couple of new pieces of information in his speech, but the underlying message of his new-found power over a Middle East rival was clear..."

The opening of an analysis by Israel's "Haaretz"-LINK

"The time may be right for President Trump to cease leading from behind, to step out front, and to say that, while he withheld judgement to give the Saudis every benefit of the doubt, he now believes that the weight of the evidence points conclusively to a plot to kill Jamal Khashoggi.

Hence, he is terminating U.S. military aid for the war in Yemen that Crown Prince Mohammed has been conducting for three years, Win-win."

Columnist and former White House aide (Reagan,Nixon) Pat Buchanan-LINK

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had billed his speech to parliamentarians yesterday as the "naked truth" about Jamal Khashoggi's murder but it turned out to be a veiled revelation of what the Turks believe happened when Khashoggi was dismembered at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul October 2nd.

Erdogan said the murder was deliberate and premeditated.

He offered his belief in the sincerity of Saudi Arabia's  King Salman bin Abdul Aziz but offered no such affirmation of the sincerity of Crown Prince Mohmmed bin Salman.

Turkish media loyal to the government have spent much time connecting the dots between the group of Saudis they say were involved in the murder to Mohammed bin Salman.

The commentary as the week went on from "Yeni Safak" was very explicit in saying MbS ordered the murder of Khashoggi.  It says as documents are revealed, the "noose will get tighter" around bin Salman's neck.

The Turks are also attacking and seeking the removal of the United Arab Emirates Crown Prince Mohammed bin Sayed as a party to the whole matter.

Israel, the USA and so on are also painted in a negative light in the commentary.

And I guess its time to bring in the big Saudi backed and US-Israel-European backed project of the last seven years, the Civil War in Syria.

The head chopping jihadists supported by Saudi Arabia, Turkey's now ally Qatar and the rest were bad enough, then they morphed into the more flamboyant Islamic State ones in some cases.

Murder, rape and refugees were the order of the day with many of them migrating to Europe where there was more rape and murder and mayhem.

Glenn Beck was tying to help those people trying to flee Islamic State and it was during that period of time, before his "Never Trump-Ted Cruz" phase that I recall him saying "I am a supporter of Israel, but not of the people who support Israel".

Beck stopped saying that again and I don't believe I have heard him say it since but I'm not a regular listener-viewer of his any more.

It was an apparent reference to the Neoconservative foreign policy elite including the likes of so many folks from the late Charles Krauthammer to Victoria Nuland and the list goes on.

Nuland  was quick to speak and say regardless of the outrageous nature of Khashoggi's murder, the relationship with Saudi Arabia must continue.

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