Monday, March 14, 2016

OREGON STANDOFF: David Fry's messages from jail,  Just say no to antidepressants, His protest story

"A year ago we were all fascinated by the horrible crash of a Germanwings A320 jet, brought about by its suicidal pilot

But now that the likely explanation has come out, there's almost total silence.  Could this be because that pilot, Andreas Lubitz, turns out to have been taking a gigantic dose of 'antidepressant ' pills, among whose known side effects are terrifying dreams, suicidal behavior and 'severe thoughts of suicide'?

Just as nobody pays any attention to the presence of benzoaizepines and amphetamines  in the flat of the San Bernadino mass murderers, or the use of 'antidepressants' by at least one of the Columbine school killer (the other shooter's medical records, absurdly, are sealed) nobody wants to know about this either.   Time we did"

                                                           Peter Hitchens-"Mail On Sunday" column- 3/13/2016

"Do I not have the right to treat my own problems of stress, anxiety and depression with my own herbal remedies?   They prefer that I use FDA approved prescription drugs which time and time again have been proven to be awful.   The vast majority of serial killers and mass murderers have been taking these FDA approved drugs.   Most of these prescription drugs even state in their commercials and warning labels of the increased chance of suicide and leave out the increased chance of a murder rampage killing spree......"

                                                          David Fry-Arrested Oregon protestor phone call 3/5/2016

David Fry was the last protestor to come out (2/11/2016)  of the FBI siege of "Camp Finicum", the encampment out in the open at the parking of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge (renamed the Harney County Resource Center during the protest).

Fry was suggesting that he should end his life during a conversation that lasted more than an hour but he finally walked out asking everyone to shout "Hallelujah" as he did.

The mainstream media reporting on David Fry early in the Oregon Standoff focused on his previous drug arrest record (marijuana) and his crazy tweets.

But he served a role of value in the protest, being a line of communication to the outside world including the live account of an FBI assault on the encampment during the evening of February 10th.

Now David Fry is in jail awaiting trial for his role in the protest.   A judge has refused to release Fry citing issues like his mental health and previous arrest record.

Speaking from jail in a phone call posted on You Tube, Fry spoke against the the idea of prescription antidepressant drugs being administered to him.

There is controversy over their use, but its a muted controversy.

No doubt this is because there are people used to prescribing them in the medical profession and a pharma industry profitable and flush with cash for media power and political power.

In 2004 the Republican Party gave pharma an infusion of support with the expanded Medicare program for prescriptions (Medicare Part D).    Hundreds of millions in taxpayer and national debt support for the sale of pharma products.

Then came the Affordable Care Act and its individual mandate that everyone get medical coverage including prescription plans plus expanded Medicaid for the poor.

It all added up to another big infusion of financial support for the pharma industry.   Their stocks have soared in recent years, outperforming others.

But that leaves us with acts of mass murder being committed by people who used antidepressants like the pilot who crashed his plane in French Alps in March 2015, killing 150 people.

Its something we need to talk about more and we also need to ask more questions about.

David Fry made a new phone call from jail last weekend with a thank you to all those supporting him.    "Thanks to all those who have been sending letters", Fry said.   He listed dozens of people who have sent letters and other things including a person from Sweden.   Fry prayed in his call and laid out why he went to the protest in Oregon and what he believes about the state of the world

Fry said that on January 3rd he checked the news after a month and after praying.   ",,,,,for the the first time in my life I saw a genuine attempt at changing this nation.   People had taken over a federal building peacefully and occupying it exercising their First and Second Amendment rights."   This led Fry to make the journey to Oregon and join the protest, a protest he said was not about destroying things or killing people.

Fry recalls shouting out to LaVoy Finicum and hugging him when they first met.  Finicum asked him if he knew about computers and thus began David Fry's involvement in the high tech aspects of the protest.

I wish David Fry the best in his life, a sober and sane life, a life of peace and serenity.   I also wish him a life without mind altering and dangerous 'medication' in his body.

His mailing address in jail

David Lee Fry  SWIS ID#795444
11540 NE Inverness Drive
Portland, OR 97220

(You must put a return address on your mail)

Wednesday, March 9, 2016


                                 THE FEAR THAT KILLED A PATRIOT

                                                  LaVoy Finicum

"How many years can some people exist before they're allowed to be free..... How many times can a man turn his head and pretend that he just doesn't see....How many times must a man look up before he can see the sky....How many ears must one man have before he can hear people cry.....How man deaths will it take till he knows too many people have died....The answer my friend is blowin' in the wind, the answer is blowin' in the wind."

Peter, Paul and Mary-"Blowin' In The Wind" (1963)   (written by Bob Dylan)


 "Fear Not.....Perfect Love Casts Out Fear"-

                                                      The Good Book

                  "Blowin' In The Wind"  was a song playing all over this country in the summer of 1963 as the protests of the "Civil Rights Movement' spread far and wide causing fear in Washington and a decision to employ the FBI on Dr. Martin Luther King with wiretaps and eventually audio surveillance of his hotel rooms and a 'sex tape' being sent to him in the mail.

                 When Robert LaVoy Finicum joined Ammon Bundy and the others to protest in Oregon at the beginning of this year, they came to 'love thy neighbor' as in the Hammonds (Dwight and Steven), ranchers ordered back to federal prison as terrorists for setting a backfire to protect their property.

                  The Hammonds were the latest in a long string of Western farmers and ranchers subjected to the heavy hand of federal land policy in the West, a policy that just like the racial policies that came to be known as Jim Crow in the South, developed over decades to impoverish people, make them second class citizens, leave them victimized and powerless.

                   Even though they petitioned government officials for redress of their grievances, their petitions either fell on deaf ears or were given the pretense of a response that did not undo the wrongs or prevent new wrongs from being committed.

                    And as their protest began to gain steam at town meetings in the Harney County area, Oregon's governor wrote to Washington demanding 'action' and the FBI obliged.

                    For wanting to do something peacefully, exercising his First and Second Amendment rights, LaVoy paid with his life during what the FBI called a 'traffic stop'.     A 'traffic stop' using the agency's elite "Hostage Rescue Team".

                    Now Oregon officials, whose track record during the protest was that of being willing lackeys of the FBI even to the point of pulling the triggers that killed LaVoy Finicum, have again stepped up to the plate to justify their bloody action

                     They said six shots fired by Oregon State Police including the three that hit LaVoy Finicum in the back were justified by the way he acted.
                     They Oregon officials said they would release more later on including video. Why. not now?

                      The Oregon officials also pointing out firearms were found on Finicum and in the vehicles pulled over.   Of course the facts are that the only firearms used were those used by the FBI and Oregon State Police.   The FBI side fired the first and only shots during the protest.
                    Victoria Sharp, the 18 year old gospel singer who was riding in the truck driven by LaVoy, said she was shot at by the FBI and detractors said it was just 'flash bangs'.   The investigation did reveal that an FBI HRT member did fire off two live rounds at the truck as it came to a stop.   One of them ended up shattering a window.  Victoria Sharp was telling the truth.    Four FBI agents apparently lied to cover for their buddy who used the live ammo and didn't tell anyone he did.   The Justice Department is conducting an investigation into their conduct..
                    When its all said and done, I think the media, government and left-wing activist portrayal of the non violent protestors as  'armed militants', 'armed militia', 'Bundy militia' and so on created an atmosphere of fear in the minds of the general public around the nation and the members of law enforcement deployed into the situation.

                     It was speaker Gavin Seim who said in a video that the  FBI are people who 'came for violence' and on January 26th along US Route 395 they indeed did just that.

                     They fired their shots out of their fear of a 'boogeyman' built in their minds by the "Drama Kings" and "Drama Queens" of leftist political activism, the mainstream media and an ever oppressive and suspicious big government apparatus, the apparatus used to oppress farmers and ranchers in the West.

                      A 'booogeyman' called ''armed militants", "Bundy militia," "armed occupiers" and worse.

                      Indeed, District Attorney Dan Norris of Malheur County, Oregon, said the two troopers who shot LaVoy in the back thought he was reaching for a weapon to use on their fellow trooper standing in front of LaVoy.

                      Or, in other words, there was 'fear' in their hearts.

                      One other note, Jerry DeLemus was denied bail by a federal judge in New Hampshire yesterday.   She had told a courtroom packed with Jerry's supporters on Monday she needed time to consider her decision.   I suspect she, too, was living in fear of the representatives of "We The People" who were in her courtroom.   That's why she waited to deny Mr. DeLemus bail.

Saturday, March 5, 2016

OREGON STANDOFF: What the latest wave of arrests tell us

OREGON STANDOFF:  The latest wave of arrests, Loretta Lynch(ed) Voy?,More Arrests,Ammon Bundy Message

I don't have all the angles covered, I'm sure others do, but there are some things we can take away from the latest arrests on charges related to the Nevada confrontation in 2014 when supporters of rancher Cliven Bundy got his stolen cattle back from the Bureau of Land Management.

Many of the people arrested on Nevada charges were also present in Oregon and some of them were already jailed for the recent protest in Oregon.

First  to New Hampshire where Gerald DeLemus was arrested for his involvement in the 2014 standoff at Cliven Bundy's ranch in Nevada.  DeLemus is married to a New Hampshire state legislator, Susan DeLemus, and is the co-chairman of Veterans for Trump.   DeLemus went to Oregon during the protest in January and sent video reports also saying he wanted to negotiate an
 end to it.

Two dozen people quickly showed up a few hours after his arrest when he appeared in court.
They sang "God Bless America" and DeLemus blew kisses at them.
Perhaps we will see some public pushback against the arrest waves in the "Live Free or Die" state.

Todd Engel  was also arrested for Nevada activities, but played an important role in Oregon where he scoped out the FBI and other law enforcement activities in Harney  County. On January 23rd Engel warned protest leader Ammon Bundy of FBI action within 2 to 3 days, a tragically accurate estimate.

Engel also participated in a January 24th conversation (along with Stewart Rhodes, president and founder of Oath Keepers) with LaVoy Finicum.  In that conversation, posted online after LaVoy's killing, they urged that the protest move to a safer location where there was a "Constitutional Sheriff" who could deputize protection fpr them.   "OregonLive' speculates the protestors may have been intending to move into Grant County seeking the protection of Sheriff Glenn Palmer.  LaVoy told the authorities right before they killed him that  he was seeking a meeting with Sheriff Palmer.

Eric Parker of Hailey, Idaho, another one of those arrested,  was photographed in a crouched position aiming his firearm at federal agents from the Bureau of Land Management at the Nevada standoff in 2014.

Gavin Seim's video posted late Thursday March 3rd alludes to the public obsession with presidential candidates and debate while its much more important that they take a Constitutional position and if they don't, they aren't worth supporting.

Now that a prominent Donald Trump supporter  has been arrested, there was some speculation as to whether Mr. Trump would wade into it.  But there's been no sign of it so far.  The GOP presidential candidates to a man all called for the protest to end in Oregon back in January.

But perhaps there's something to be gleaned from Mr. DeLemus who was in the 'fight' back in 2014 and was more passive during this  year's protest in Oregon and apparently more interested and involved in supporting a political candidate who comes off as a tough guy who's going to change things.

A  Nevada state legislator who supports Ted Cruz spoke of Ted as being concerned about federal land policies in the West, but also a 'law and order kind of guy'.

The 'law and order' of Jim Crow and Bull Connor used against the farmers, ranchers and protestors etc, etc, out West is not a 'law and order' rooted in justice.

The filthy system of EPA, BLM, OSHA and the list goes on alphabet soup federal control of Western farmers and ranchers has developed over the last 50 years just like the filthy system of racism developed in the South at the end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th.

It disenfranchises farmers and ranchers of economic opportunity just as sure as the racist system did in the Old South.  And sometimes it even goes beyond that with murders like those that happened in those times.

I guess one could say that LaVoy Finicum was 'lynched' with bullets by a "Lynch Mob" (a pun).

A week before he was killed Oregon Governor Kate Brown released a letter to US Attorney General Loretta Lynch demanding action against the protest.    Indeed, one could say if so inclined on a sign or on a shirt that "Loretta Lynch(ed) Lavoy".

Some 50 events are scheduled today across the country to remember LaVoy's murder.

Gavin Seim expresses his concern over more arrests and violence from federal authorites in his Thursday night video on You Tube.

Thinking out loud and remembering Mr. Engel's conversation with LaVoy, perhaps the protection of a Constitutional Sheriff and local officials willing to proclaim a 'zone of refuge' may be an idea 
That may need backup from hundreds of 'deputized' people.

I've heard the FBI is talking to people who end up getting arrested later.   Maybe it would good for video cameras to be around those who face arrest with video sent to a remote location so records of any arrests can be preserved like that famous Associated Press photographer's picture of the SWAT Team member facing the child Elian Gonzalez in Miami back in April 2000.

Late word posted from "Call of Duty Goddess" on You Tube that a message from Ammon Bundy in jail is coming on the"Citizens 4 Constitutional Freedom" website.  The C4CF website is mobilizing nationwide support right now.

Thursday, March 3, 2016

OREGON STANDOFF: How You Can Help The Imprisoned Patriots, The Real III Percenters, The "Mess"

"What can I do to help the patriots?  Lets talk about that, I'm going to give you three things right now that you can do to help the patriots"

                                                Gavin Seim in his "How to HELP the Oregon Patriots" video 

Gavin Seim, who helped the protestors in Oregon communicate with the outside world during the FBI siege, is out with a new video on how the rest of us can help the those who are now prisoners in Oregon and charged in connection with the protest.

He makes three points:

1.   "Get The Narrative Straight And Stop Deceiving Ourselves"

"Lets stop with the false patriotism, the false bravado, the flag waving you and know this attitude of "well we're America so we're better, we're the greatest and least we're still free," We're not,  We're not still free, we're not a nation of liberty anymore, we' re not even a nation of law anymore, friends.
Our government acts with impunity and they do whatever they want and they have declared war on the law, on liberty, on the people of this nation......Our patriots brothers and sisters, they are prisoners of war and we need to step up............we need to start straightening out that narrative, not only in our own minds, but on the news articles calling these guys 'terrorists' out the truth and let that truth spread.and teach it to your neighbors to your children and to the world.......the message is liberty, its loving your neighbor as yourself, its justice.....we need to step up, we need to get on our knees to appeal to Heaven we need to restore liberty.

2. "Start Showing Up"

"Show up and visit them in the prisons, show up at the rallies, show up in the courtroom, show up by sending them letters and making sure they know they are not forgotten.....Ammon, Jon Ritzheimer, David Fry, Pete Santilli and the list goes on and on and on.....when you are in jail they are mentally abusive, you feel alone and isolated and helpless, that's the goal, they want to break you and I can tell you that our guys in jail are going through a lot of abuse, it's not always slap you around physical abuse, but make no mistake it is abuse.......start showing up in any capacity you can."

3. "Start Giving"

"Our patriots, they went down to Oregon, they loved their neighbor (the Hammonds), they stood up  up for the Constitution and the rule of law  and what did the government do?   They murdered LaVoy Finicum, they assassinated him on the side of the road, they locked our patriots in cages.  We need to start putting it on the line.  They put their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor on the line.....we need to start giving of our fortunes, supporting them for legal fees and their families.....and patriots, I always see them saying "Oh we'll be here when the time comes, oh we'll be there for you" and then the time comes and the word 'money' is mentioned and they flee, they scatter in every direction or they say 'Oh, well I'm sorry, I've got a new house payment and I just bought a new boat and there's the car, there's the vacation and we're going to the game this weekend, so sorry I really can't be there for you , I can't really give any money'.   Stop making excuses.  We either step up for liberty or we are not for liberty."

Seim has set up a "" location to help support the prisoners.....a link to support information is available at

Blogger Gary Hunt ("Outpost of Freedom") recently wrote No.11 in his series "The Burns Chronicles" reflecting on the protest in Oregon and how things worked back in 1775 for the "III Percenters" of that.time.  "III Percenters" hearkens back to the 3 percent of the population who fought in the Revolutionary War.    When the time of crisis came at Concord and Lexington, thousands came to the 'scene of the action' within a short time.

Hunt noted that this did not happen in Oregon.

Hunt's last paragraph goes like this:

"As I reflect on those who wear the III% badge and otherwise do not intend to serve the cause, rather,only to serve themselves, their families, and their team, I am reminded of those who receive and award simply for being there, not realizing that to wear the III% badge calls for the courage, conviction, and commitment--that which the real III% of 240 years ago had."

Perhaps the massive expenditure of political energy and investment in political parties and political personalities distracted people from considering the crisis in Oregon with the Hammond's return to prison  and the need for justice in that situation.

During the protest it was called the "Harney County Resource Center" but now its back under federal government control as the "Malheur National Wildlife Refuge".  

The latest reporting from "OregonLive" reporter Les Zaitz focuses on cleanup at the refuge and the 'mess' made during the protest according to the manager of the facility.   However, the news reporting includes word that 'no major damage' was done during the protest.  Papers were said to have been in disarray and floors dirty.

There's also reporting about a threatening atmopshere for federal employees in Harney County in the days before the protest began just after the beginning of the new year.  That's what some employees told the media and similar statements figure in documents filed by federal prosecutors.

A little pretrial propaganda for potential jury consumption?